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  Where is Evolution Headed???

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
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  i believe we are the product of evolution, i think it rediculous to doubt science in this matter.. .

  but what will the evolution of energy and matter finally end up as????.

  abbadon brought up an essay about, "teilhard de chardin and the noosphere", and posted it in another thread,, it is very interesting here the link for the essay:.

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  Phantom Stranger

  So, as far as the topic of the thread - where is evolution going? (ahem).

  There are three schools of thought:

  1) Doesn't believe in evolution at all (there, I put y'all first).

  2) Believes in evolution as a blind, deterministic outcome of physical forces - the "pool-ball" theory.

  3) Believes in evolution as a demonstrated outcome of universal "spiritual" forces toward continued growth and progress in the biological realm - the "woo-woo' theory.

  (Knows an unsubstantiated conclusion? He worships an unsubstatiated conclusion!) Are you less self-righteous than when you were a JW?
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  California Supreme Court and Religious Freedom

  by Yerusalyim in

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  monday the california supreme court ruled that private religious charities with employees must offer birth control along with their medical prescription benefits, even though doing so violates religious principle.

  comments on free exercise?

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  Phantom Stranger

  Interesting points on this story from the Sacramento Bee: http://www.sacbee.com/content/women/story/8396395p-9316740c.html

  Werdegar's majority opinion listed a string of precedents in which the U.S. Supreme Court and other courts have refused to carve exemptions for religious objectors into laws advancing critical governmental objectives. <like the draft...>

  Catholic Charities, the church's social welfare arm, claims its religious rights are violated by the 4-year-old statute that's seen by proponents as a model for accommodating religious values, health-care concerns and the rights of women to make their own birth control decisions. The law exempts churches as well as nonprofits whose mission is religious and whose staff and clientele share the organization's religious tenets.

  The test case was filed by Catholic Charities of Sacramento. The decision covers Catholic Charities organizations throughout California, their 4,100 employees, who include many non-Catholics, and other primarily secular enterprises such as church-affiliated hospitals.

  Carol Hogan, communications director for the California Catholic Conference, said Catholic Charities affiliates in Sacramento and some other locations have been covering contraceptives "under duress" during the litigation because their insurers have complied with the statute. <in other words, the insurance companies have been covering it anyway>
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  Where is Evolution Headed???

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i believe we are the product of evolution, i think it rediculous to doubt science in this matter.. .

  but what will the evolution of energy and matter finally end up as????.

  abbadon brought up an essay about, "teilhard de chardin and the noosphere", and posted it in another thread,, it is very interesting here the link for the essay:.

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  Phantom Stranger

  I think you underestimate how many might be annoyed by your communication style.
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  Where is Evolution Headed???

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i believe we are the product of evolution, i think it rediculous to doubt science in this matter.. .

  but what will the evolution of energy and matter finally end up as????.

  abbadon brought up an essay about, "teilhard de chardin and the noosphere", and posted it in another thread,, it is very interesting here the link for the essay:.

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  Phantom Stranger

  I hope our simultaneous posting didn't result in you missing my question...
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  Where is Evolution Headed???

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i believe we are the product of evolution, i think it rediculous to doubt science in this matter.. .

  but what will the evolution of energy and matter finally end up as????.

  abbadon brought up an essay about, "teilhard de chardin and the noosphere", and posted it in another thread,, it is very interesting here the link for the essay:.

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  Phantom Stranger

  Belief in God and/or creation is just another belief without adequate proof, too.

  L_T, you post threads about the bible which you specifically ask non-beleivers to avoid... and to the best of my knowledge, they have.

  Why are you going onto threads created for discussing evolution purposely looking to simply argue against evolution? Quite honestly, isn't that a double standard?
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  California Supreme Court and Religious Freedom

  by Yerusalyim in

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  monday the california supreme court ruled that private religious charities with employees must offer birth control along with their medical prescription benefits, even though doing so violates religious principle.

  comments on free exercise?

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  Phantom Stranger

  Yes, can JW's offer insurance that pays for everything BUT blood transfusions? I bet J.R. Brown's health plan would pay for a transfusion if he wanted one...

  And no, M.T. would not have been forced to do anything... unless she was offering employees health insurance prescription drug benefits - then she would have to conform to local law on the matter.
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  Portlanders let's have a beer...

  by Huxley in

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  mcmenamin's tavern.

  1716 nw 23rd.

  this saturday!

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  Phantom Stranger

  I have a soccer game that evening, but I might be able to stop by briefly...
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  As a JW, did you ever date someone who was not?

  by cyberguy in

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  i dated a number of witness girls, but none of those relationships went anyware.

  however, as a younger, active jw, i also went out with a few ?worldly?

  girls from school and work.

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  Phantom Stranger

  Well, yeah, of cour...oh, "not"... I thought you said "hot".
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  Is it wrong to get drunk on purpose????????????? Just a poll , to see.....

  by LyinEyes in

  1. social
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  well is it wrong to go out and plan on getting drunk,,,,,,tipsy,,,,,,,,,,,mellow,,,,,,,,,or "merry in heart" as the bible puts it??????

  i know that some people have addiction problems with alcohol and i dont mean to offend anyone,,,,,but there are alot of folks who on a weekend here and there, drink and just let loose.

  i , for one know that if you have a problem with alcohol this is a totally different subject .

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  Phantom Stranger

  If getting drunk on purpose is wrong, I don't want to be right.

  I've been told that every single mammal does something to alter its consciousness in some way, even if it's banging one's head on a rock.
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  Liberal Equals Ex-JW

  by patio34 in

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  2. friends

  something i've noticed on this board is that there seem to be many more liberal-left types than conservative-right types.

  what do you think of my following theories?

  in the 70s, many converts to jw-dom were influenced by the anti-establishment philosophy and anti-viet nam war.

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  Phantom Stranger

  Yes, closed-mindedness is not the province of any particular group or school of thought. I know closed-minded liberals and open-minded conservatives.

  War is a breakdown in communication. David Gerrold?